And more ads. But I hide em, so no idea where these are. Ugh yes that UX is atrocious!! I've been experiencing it either way on my phone this week. As you say, its not present on ud. I doubt it. I feel like the real effects of a change like this will take a very long time to see. I have personally been extremely bothered by the masked threads for a while now as I often browse reddit unlogged.
I just pulled up www. Perhaps they are testing it with a subset of users? Yes, they must be testing it. I have encountered it several times. It always makes me close the tab and do something else. Hope they keep it. Someone on Dec 13, prev next [—]. This is classic shortermism. Reddit is, in the short term, driving more external users towards creating user accounts while in the long term removing one of the major value funnels for why they would i.
This will give them a short term "bump" at the cost of the site's long term relevance as it falls down Google's search results rankings, due to loss of clicks as people stop looking to Reddit as a source of info. Most of the recent moves on Reddit are like this, it feels like the entire site is being turned into a pump and dump scheme. Nothing lasts forever. Reddit is 14 years old. They've had a good run. I think there is a general trend away from user-generated content as a business model, because that content can be a bit salty.
Reddit might just be cashing out because the wave they rode has already crested. Cephalopterus on Dec 13, root parent next [—]. AKA the fate of every site that is a collection of usergenerated content with an ad based business model. If you want to get serious about monetization then you need to actively curtail any content that is not "advertiser friendly" which in most cases means alienating your core content generators, case in point, Tumblr. Chirael on Dec 13, root parent next [—].
YouTube is starting to do this as well. For example they've made it so that accounts with less than subscribers can't do live streams any more. Not coincidentally, subscribers is the threshold for monetization i. AlchemistCamp on Dec 13, root parent next [—]. Another YT issue I personally find annoying as someone who has recorded a LOT of programming tutorials is all the garbage that pops up on the lower part of the screen whenever the viewer presses pause.
A lot of times they're hitting pause because they want to read what I'm typing in the terminal. In the past, YT allowed creators to prevent this behavior and recommended videos in general by appending a?
Last year, they removed that option. It's frustrating that they claim to be explicitly trying to promote educational content, but then they degrade the experience for educational viewers, regardless of the preference of the viewer or creator.
Video recommendations covering the screen while I pause to try and read something. Is it really that niche of a use case that the user is pausing the video to better view something in said video?! How many more places do we need to shove recommendation systems down the users throat. When a user pauses, show them something else to watch, they might be bored and about to start playing roblox. Also, if they switch videos it gives you more views to give to your creators, and you can lead the next vid with an ad.
Need to get more ads to those impressionable little eyes! It's not mere possibility, it's reality. The service's incentives do not align with the users', they are pursuing engagement as opposed to utility. It is actually counterproductive to YouTube's bottom line for the content to be deep and meaningful, they make more money when it's fleeting and superficial. This is the natural outcome of the attention economy.
Ugh it makes me so sad to see glassy-eyed toddlers glued to their tablets. This has to have some kind of long term cognitive impact on their attention spans. We're basically doing an experiment on an entire generation by turning them into dopamine addicts with the attention span of a goldfish.
I know my attention span and ability to focus has absolutely tanked in the last decade because of the modern internet. I get more and more frustrated by YouTube's monetization attempts every day. Educational and other serious content creators need to start moving to more quality-focused platforms like Vimeo which unfortunately isn't free, but at least it doesn't have ads!
Leave YouTube for the teenage influencers and inane children's content. In the DOS days the Pause button on your keyboard would actually stop the text being scrolled if you had a multi-page output. I wonder if Windows or well any desktop OS can have a feature where that button would freeze frame the display. Could probably do it today with autohotkey or similar; take screenshot and display full screen borderless. Very confusing when you click on the screenshot though. Yeah that's one of the reasons I download most content I intend to study from YouTube and watch it with a decent media player.
Another major reason is ability to go frame-by-frame forward and back which is implemented in the YouTube player but doesn't work reliably. Combine that with a browser plugin to play a link or the curent page in mpv. Infinitely better experience than watching in the browser. YouTube is definitely doing this. If you watch a video without being signed in, it now displays a popover over the video that says "You're signed out of YouTube.
Sign in to like videos, comment, and subscribe. I know of a few gaming channels that tend to stream on Twitch and then post on YT later often in 30 minute segments for easier consumption. If someone is using e. OBS Studio to stitch together a screencap and a facecam, it's easy to have to save to a file for later use.
Flozzin on Dec 13, root parent prev next [—]. I wonder how much it costs to get a thousand bot accounts to subscribe to your account. That's playing with fire.
Karunamon on Dec 13, root parent prev next [—]. I wouldn't do it, though, seems like a great way to get a nasty surprise in the future when the bots get terminated. Scoundreller on Dec 13, root parent next [—]. The sad part about the sub requirement is that many forms of content are valuable but not sub-worthy.
They really aren't legitimately user-generated subreddits anymore and there's always this constant tension between users and what gets allowed to be 'frontpaged' or commented about. I know people can create spin-off subs but when it starts happening everywhere it becomes a serious problem. I don't remember this time at all.
But I've never found much value in the big subreddits because of the incentives to game them for karma and traffic.
The most interesting communities have always seemed like the small ones since there are more people interested in a conversation vs. I have voted Democrat for a long time, but I can't stand how partisan it's become.
The comments are always so low-effort too. The top voted comment in almost any thread will be something like, "fuck trump". Kye on Dec 13, root parent next [—]. Some people mistake catharsis for activism. It burns a lot of energy while not leading to any progress, or even to building a foundation for making progress. It almost gives me an uncanny valley feeling. There's a certain pattern to every comments thread that makes me feel like I'm watching a 'conversation' between lazy teenagers, vote-manipulation bots and a handful of paid?
I know that sounds paranoid, but fwiw if I were an American I would vote Democrat, and if you applied a hundred randomly-chosen negative adjectives to Trump I would strongly agree with most of them. So this isn't a shocked reaction to seeing an echo chamber populated by the wrong team. I wouldn't necessarily mind it being partisan, if not for the extremely low quality commenting standard. I'm sure there's a causal link: most of us are less likely to call out bullshit from our own team, and when there's nobody to call you out on your bullshit so long as it's directed at the correct targets , it's tempting to go ever cheaper and ever dumber in search of easy approval.
But it would at least be possible to have a forum where people had a lot of opinions in common, but still cared about truth and intellectual integrity and basic logic. Cephalopterus on Dec 13, root parent prev next [—].
The sub's a disgrace lately. Striking that balance is important, forcing your own views of what the sub should be will antogonize people but at the same time maintaining a bare minimum is also important.
The end result of doing that is usually the older regular content creators lose interest and leave the community. CydeWeys on Dec 13, root parent prev next [—]. The moderators are just users though, oftentimes ones who just got there first. If you don't like the vision for any given subreddit you can create your own with more lax moderation. There's plenty of stories where subs split off because of moderation differences and ended up becoming bigger than their parent.
Personally I find that the more strictly a subreddit is moderated, the better it tends to be. Must be exhausting for the mods. Just want to say I cannot agree with these sentiments more.
Google turned a seemingly benign industry into something people now regularly refer to as "weaponized" messaging. The pen is mightier than the sword. The spoken word is mightier than both. We need to relearn how to talk to one another instead of relying on what used to be a useful heuristic shortcut in our day to day life.
We got drunk on the convenience of industry automating massaging before we even realized tech would lead to automation could scale at such exponential rates.
Our linear thinking in 3d space time is not able to keep up with all the degrees of separation in play anymore. Marketing is a joke and everyone knows it. This is the real industry that is "too big to fail".
And that they pinned it on the penultimate boogey man aka money is just more fuel to that fire. It's possible to migrate software without driving off all your users. It's soft , after all. When the 8-bit wave crested, that didn't mean Apple was done as a company. Why do we accept that such a short-lived company less than one human generation is "a good run", just because it's software? If Tesla turned into a "classic pump and dump scheme", nobody would say "Well, Tesla is 16 years old.
TheAdamAndChe on Dec 13, root parent next [—]. It makes sense to think of Reddit as an application rather than a company. Reddit the application depends on network effects to grow, and without growth, decay will be inevitable. Facebook the company has been able to create other applications that grow, even while Facebook the application is starting a network effect-triggered death spiral.
Reddit Inc. Saying something makes sense doesn't make it make sense. Reddit is not just an application. Reddit is millions of like-minded users exchanging thoughts on a wide variety of subjects. The software or application may affect how those users interact with the other users, but it is the users at the end of the day that define what Reddit or this site is.
OnlineGladiator on Dec 13, root parent next [—]. This ignores astroturfing, abusive mods, user hostile tactics forcing v. It's clearly already dying to anybody that isn't inside the echo chamber.
It moved away from value creation years ago and is clearly in the death grip of value extraction. I suspect it actually has a lot to do with their latest investment round 5 years ago, but this is purely speculation on my part. You've missed two more investment rounds. Perpetual growth is good only in a business sense. Social software has an optimal amount of users. Too few and there isn't enough signal, too many and there's too much noise. Both make people lose interest and leave.
Without researching traffic stats over time, what gives you the impression that reddit is dying? I'm under the impression it's only become bigger and bigger over the years. It's one of the top sites on the internet. Also,for me, it's still a great social media site that lets me talk anonymously about almost anything.
The beauty of reddit is that serious decline and toxicity only seems to happen within subs. If a sub becomes really bad, you just move on to other subs that are less toxic. Still plenty of great subcommunities there. I'm not parent, but the very fact that they keep degrading the UI and implementing dark patterns and doing crap like requiring login to read comments is exactly what gives the impression that reddit is dying. It is hard to assume that people on top care about their users when every single news about any kind of change looks like to a downgrade to my Reddit experience.
I'm still baffled about the UI "improvement. It's so busy and I can't find anything I want. I have never, ever seen a site anywhere near as big as Reddit with such a bad redesign. It seems they could have hired one UX guy and one graphic guy The old design was boring and out of date, but it was everything I needed so I was fine with it.
But I'm mainly a mobile user so I don't really care. I'm mainly a desktop user, so for me the new design is, how shall I put it politely, utter shite? One of the things the new design has made much harder is the discovery of new subs; in the old reddit you could generally speaking find a list of related subreddits on the right side of the screen.
Not anymore sometimes they're buried in the wiki, but not always. It's a shame, because discovering new and interesting and weird topics was one of the best things about it. Also, to echo many users here, my usage of the site has dropped right down after the redesign. It's a shame because it was for many years one of my favourite places on the Internet. You can still opt out of the redesign, which I do. I find the new desktop design to be intolerable.
I worry that eventually they're going to force everyone onto the new design, though. It still wasn't enough to make me stick around. The popups on my phone to use the app on every page load are infuriating. Especially when I use Firefox on my phone, and it tells me to "Continue with Safari. My presumption is the choice of name "old. They are just following the Digg roadmap. We all know how that turned out.
The only thing I can find in my reddit feed is a bunch of annoying ass TripleByte ads. Echoing this, even just a year or so ago, I'd follow five or six different subreddits and check in on them multiple times a day.
In the past few months, I've found that I only check "Today I Learned", and even that only once every day or so. I find the discussion here to be much more mature and insightful than any of the tech related subreddits. I had written it off as reddit being a young-persons domain and me getting old, but it could just be that reddit is losing it's edge.
It sounds like you're talking about "channel" subreddits, the ones that just form as arbitrary sets of people gather to—however ephemerally—discuss a topic, without ever really self-identifying as "members" of that place. In other words, Reddit is IMHO at its best when it's serving as a shared-infrastructure, shared-registration, shared-administration host for otherwise-independent forums.
Reddit succeeded at being the thing that e. But that meta-forum, and the random "by Redditors, for Redditors" forums that shoot up out of it, aren't the real value-prop. The individual forums hosted for their own communities' sakes are. The meta-forum is just there so that people are aware that Reddit exists when they're thinking about which cloud forum host to use. Those independent third-party forums are healthy self-contained communities, because they're planned —they were probably started by a PR effort of a company or nonprofit org, and probably have real, paid "community managers" assigned to moderate them.
Reddit's own random-offshoot forums have none of these advantages. They're just people who wandered into an empty space, sat down, and started talking. Of course they don't have functional moderation. They're cliques! Next time you're looking at a subreddit, ask yourself: does this subreddit have a website?
And could it be said that the website "owns the subreddit" rather than the other way around? If so, then great: it's an independent community that happens to use Reddit to host a forum.
If not, maybe don't even bother. I'd love to see a list of the top subreddits that are left when you apply this filter. TurkishPoptart on Dec 13, root parent prev next [—]. How's their ad revenue? They could keep the stupid app, keep the dumb messages trying to convince me to switch to the app, and I'd still use it.
But this is just a slap in the face to the average user. You say that but I literally don't know where to go. Like sports? What comes next? Don't say Discord. Does anyone give Discord as a serious answer to that question? I'm really struggling to figure out how a glorified IRC replacement is going to fill the same niche as Reddit. I think Discord is great for chats. They've been adding a lot of improvements and features recently. The only thing I wish they had was an IP ban. However, this is by no means a replacement for reddit.
WWLink on Dec 13, root parent prev next [—]. Ugh I hate those. I hate the suggestion that we can't have proper social websites anymore because people only want to share pictures from their phones lol. AlchemistCamp on Dec 13, root parent prev next [—].
Curious Cat. Scoundreller on Dec 13, root parent prev next [—]. HN subgroups ;. AJ on Dec 13, parent prev next [—]. Are they going to get away with keeping all of their google volume by cloaking the google bot and hiding the content from everyone else?
Someone on Dec 13, root parent next [—]. That wouldn't help. A significant metric Google uses for ranking is relevance, meaning number of historic clicks for a given search term.
As users learn that Reddit links aren't useful sources of information, they'll click less, which means the relevance between the search term and Reddit goes down. Ultimately reducing Reddit's ranking, regardless of if the Googlebot is allowed to index the content. Like Reddit, Oath has not been called upon to provide evidence to the various committees looking into the issue of Russian influence online.
Facebook, Twitter and YouTube-owner Google have all appeared in front of US politicians on several occasions to explain their investigations and subsequent efforts to prevent similar activity from Russia - or other countries - in the future. Yet unlike its competitors, which have workforces in the tens of thousands, Reddit is a comparatively tiny company.
As of July last year, the company had just employees, yet it is ranked the sixth most popular website on the internet by traffic monitoring service Alexa. It has a so-called "anti evil" team to combat abuse, described in job postings as "small and scrappy".
The tactics of a Russian troll farm. Zuckerberg's resolution: 'Fix' Facebook. Image source, Reddit. Image source, US Senate. To view them, enable Show Sensitive Content in settings. Click the Profile icon in the top right corner next to the Upload button and select Settings in the menu.
Click on Account. Click the Delete my account link below the Save Changes button. Furthermore Is 9GAG illegal? The tech giant forbids apps where nudity is a major focus, but allows « incidental » content. We collect information about your activity through our services. For example: How you interact with our services, such as what sections you look at, what you search for, what posts and comments you upload, or what posts and comments you upvote or downvote.
Re-enter your log in details and if you choose, a reason why you are deleting your Reddit account. Users can comment and upvote content as well as share it on other social media sites. Be prepared for a lot of banner ads and videos though, because 9gag is loaded with them.
This site is a bit different from the others on this list because of how it is structured and how it rewards users. Steemit is a blockchain-based social media website, and it rewards users with its own cryptocurrency, STEEM, for curating and publishing content. It still remains to be seen how this cryptocurrency will progress in value and if it makes sense for Steemit to continue to pay its users, but it is certainly an exciting platform.
Another Reddit clone, Lemmy sports a super smooth interface and is really easy to navigate. Lemmy is more focused on technological pursuits, and you will find a lot of communities on the site dedicated to computer programming and other tech-heavy topics.
You can also very easily create your own community on Lemmy without dealing with the kind of moderation and policing of a site like Reddit. Like many of the other sites on this list, Lemmy is still quite small so it will not have a large amount of content that a site like Reddit has on a daily basis. There are still a bunch of cool communities on Lemmy worth checking out and the site will only continue to grow as it becomes more popular.
The Hive ecosystem is an exciting new piece of blockchain technology and it has been adapted into hive. While it straddles the line between a blog and a more traditional social media site, hive. One of the main drawbacks is how small the community is, which can be a good thing for some people.
For those of us looking to consume a lot of cool and interesting content, it can be a bit of a negative to have a small community, but for more seasoned bloggers it can be a great way to grow a community. Considering the huge popularity of Reddit, there is no doubt that there will be sites being created in the near future. If you have got any suggestions, let me know in the comments section below. I will check out your suggested sites and update this list of Reddit alternatives as soon as I can.
Nice list. Anyhow I used to spend my time on sportshd. There is a chat and which is more funny part to spend our time.
No no no no, Buzzfeed is nothing like Reddit.
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